you don -- unpatriotic you don't want to pay for that. >> ben stein, what do you make of this latest development? >> i don't think it's a big new huge deal. this is something that civil servants have always done. and people are always trying to get more money for their work. and officials of banks and investment banks are doing the same thing. people are greedy animals. and they are going to steal where they can. that's how some people are. >> beyond that, everybody at homeland security knew it was going on and tried to recruit people using this little bowl of candy. >> dagen, you seem upset about it. >> i am. >> your thoughts? >> people are greedy, and big institutns enable that greediness. it's not shocking that an organization like the u.s. government with millions of people would do the sorts of things that corporations and other, you know, organizations do. >> isn't it nice that we're playing it fair and balanced? >> the banks are the greedy ones. >> the companies that i have worked for in my career would never have let this happen. if it was going on, they would have cracked do